{"id":577,"date":"2007-11-30T12:51:34","date_gmt":"2007-11-30T02:51:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msnaughty.com\/blog\/2007\/11\/30\/boring-blowjobs-and-feminist-facials\/"},"modified":"2007-11-30T12:51:34","modified_gmt":"2007-11-30T02:51:34","slug":"boring-blowjobs-and-feminist-facials","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/2007\/11\/30\/boring-blowjobs-and-feminist-facials\/","title":{"rendered":"Boring Blowjobs and Feminist Facials"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blogpics\/blowjobs.jpg\" align=\"left\" alt=\"Blowjobs and facials are boring and often look silly. \" \/>While I was away enjoying life a small debate erupted about porn, facials, blowjobs and feminism. It started because Petra Joy wrote this on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.petrajoy.com\/weblog.asp\" target=\"blank\">her blog<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A woman receiving head, a woman fucking a guy with a strap-on, a guy tasting his own cum and also to feature female ejaculation \u00e2\u20ac\u201c those techniques that show a woman in control might be &#8220;feminist porn&#8221;. If you want to show cum on a woman\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s face that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s fine but don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t call it feminist.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Petra made the comment while discussing her appearance at the Berlin Film Festival in a seminar called Good Porn for Good Girls. Her fellow panelists, Audacia Ray and Erika Lust, weren&#8217;t so impressed with this. Audacia made <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wakingvixen.com\/blog\/?p=872\" target=\"blank\">this post<\/a> on her blog, and Erika wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/erikalust.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/cant-feminist-enjoy-blowjob.html\" target=\"blank\">a long, angry post<\/a> in defence of blowjobs.<\/p>\n<p>I was off bushwalking and guzzling wine at the time, so I didn&#8217;t make any serious posts about it. And I was tempted to just let it slide, figuring I&#8217;d missed the boat on it. But I feel the need to write a few things on the whole subject.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of Petra&#8217;s and I really support what she&#8217;s trying to do. I understand where she&#8217;s coming from with that comment, but I also understand why it caused such an extreme reaction. I copped something similar when I wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnaughty.com\/moneyshot.htm\">I Hate The Money Shot<\/a> several years ago. When it comes to feminism and porn, everyone has a different view, and it helps to lay down caveats at every stage.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll say this: I still hate facial cumshots. I&#8217;m pretty sick of external cumshots. And the fact is that porn blowjobs bore the hell out of me.<\/p>\n<p>This is a personal opinion and does not apply to all women. I don&#8217;t, however, believe I&#8217;m alone in thinking this, not by a long shot.<\/p>\n<p>Facial cumshots always look fake and stupid to me. The usually involve the woman kneeling before the guy, her mouth open or smiling like a blowup Barbie doll. We only ever get to see the man&#8217;s cock and his hand while he jerks off. The cum goes on her face, in her hair, in her eye, and then she smiles and licks it all off like it&#8217;s manna from heaven, often smiling and looking directly into the camera.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think that is sexy. It just looks dumb.<\/p>\n<p>Facial cumshots suck because:<br \/>\n1. We don&#8217;t get to see the guy&#8217;s face when he comes, which is always a sexy thing to see.<br \/>\n2. They&#8217;re often carefully staged, are disconnected from the sex and look fake.<br \/>\n3. They can be very easily interpreted as a degrading thing. Wait, my fellow rabid feminists! That&#8217;s not to say they always are, but within the context of a very misogynist porn industry where facials are the norm, and where it&#8217;s often assumed the viewer is a male who likes to see women in their place, the facial can be a sexist thing.<br \/>\n4. It&#8217;s always assumed that a facial will occur at the end of sex, there&#8217;s no discussion of it and no indication that either party wanted it to be that way. It just happens as though that&#8217;s the way everybody does it.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll also restate my position that I hate the way the male orgasm (as engendered in the money shot or facial) is always the &#8220;final whistle&#8221; in porn. It&#8217;s considered to be the ultimate act, the most important thing in a whole scene. And often there&#8217;s no female orgasm whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine how ground breaking it would be if we got to see the woman come AFTER the guy? Even if that meant bringing in a vibrator. Sure, it would be just as set up as a standard facial but at least there&#8217;d be a bit of equality happening.<\/p>\n<p>So, can a facial ever be &#8220;feminist&#8221;? My answer is yes. As always, context is everything.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a scene in Candida Royalle&#8217;s <em>Eyes of Desire<\/em> when Chloe asks Tom Byron if she can watch him come. It&#8217;s one of the few &#8220;money shots&#8221; in Candida&#8217;s films but it works because we the viewer know that Chloe wanted to see it. And I think that&#8217;s how a facial can be feminist (and more enjoyable) &#8211; when the viewer knows that there&#8217;s consent and desire involved.<\/p>\n<p>Audacia and Erika also point out that the intentions and ethics of the filmmaker make all the difference, I do agree with them there, but as a viewer I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s enough to make me want to <em>watch<\/em> it. Let me hear the woman on screen say &#8220;Come on my face, I love that&#8221; and I&#8217;ll find the scenario a whole lot more believeable. I&#8217;m still not going to find it sexy, but that&#8217;s just personal taste.<\/p>\n<p>And the other thing is this &#8211; blowjobs are boring! I&#8217;ve been reviewing so many porn movies lately and the one thing I&#8217;m guaranteed to fast forward is the blowjob scenes. Of which there are many.<\/p>\n<p>Again, this is personal taste. I don&#8217;t doubt there are plenty of women who love watching blowjobs, but I&#8217;m not one of them. Give me clit licking any day.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been pondering why I find porn BJs to be dull. It may well be because I&#8217;m a woman and I want to see the woman pleasured, not the guy.<\/p>\n<p>It may also be due to the excessive screentime given to blowjobs as compared to pussy licking. Sucking dick always seems to get more airtime in most mainstream porn. Look at the recently released &#8220;Oral themed&#8221; category nominations at the AVN awards and all but one of the films are about blowjobs.<\/p>\n<p>Or it may be due to porn&#8217;s insistence of focusing only on the woman as she&#8217;s going down. From a female point of view, that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s hot about blowjobs. Fact is, when you&#8217;ve got a mouth full of cock you don&#8217;t look so great. What IS hot is knowing that you&#8217;ve got a guy right where you want him, squirming and under your control. And it&#8217;s hot to see his face as he gets lost in that pleasure. Porn steadfastly refuses to show the guy&#8217;s face.<\/p>\n<p>I did enjoy watching Mr Marcus receive a blowjob in Tristan Taormino&#8217;s <em>Chemistry<\/em>, mainly because the camera stood back and showed us both Marcus and Dana. We could see how much Marcus was into the whole thing, and that was hot.<\/p>\n<p>It doesn&#8217;t happen often.<\/p>\n<p>So, is it ever reasonable to dictate what kind of sex acts are &#8220;feminist&#8221;? Well, no, because then you turn into Andrea Dworkin, and none of us want that. <\/p>\n<p>It is reasonable, however, to think about the way mainstream porn gives priority to certain sex acts and the context in which they&#8217;re presented. And it&#8217;s OK to stand up and say &#8220;No, I don&#8217;t think those particular sex acts in that context is female-friendly or feminist.&#8221; Choice, consent and desire are what makes the difference and if I&#8217;m not seeing that, I will tend to think negatively about certain sex acts in porn.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also OK to say &#8220;I want to make feminist porn and my vision of it does not entail certain sex acts or scenarios because I personally find them to be unsatisfactory or degrading.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Feminist porn is a nebulous concept and it&#8217;s worth having a debate about what it is, what it means and what it should entail. We&#8217;ve all got different ideas about what we want to see but that&#8217;s a good thing because it means that there&#8217;s a diversity and energy involved.<\/p>\n<p>And the important thing is that feminist porn &#8211; whatever that encompasses &#8211; gets out there and starts to overcome the stagnant, sexist, boring offerings that comprise the vast majority of the porn industry. Because that&#8217;s something on which we can all agree and strive for.<\/p>\n<p>* Pic is from a site I made ages ago called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.porn-sex-porn.com\/peniskaraoke\/\">Penis Karaoke<\/a>. I had so many photos where it looked like the girls were singing into a dick, I had to make up some funny galleries.<\/p>\n<p>* <strong>Update 3rd December<\/strong>: I missed <a href=\"http:\/\/girlwithaonetrackmind.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/money-shot.html\" target=\"blank\">this post<\/a> when it originally came out, but it&#8217;s worth adding here. 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