{"id":3445,"date":"2013-01-19T00:58:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-19T00:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msnaughty.com\/blog\/?p=3445"},"modified":"2013-01-19T00:58:00","modified_gmt":"2013-01-19T00:58:00","slug":"were-still-targeting-men-couples-porn-and-the-male-perspective","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/2013\/01\/19\/were-still-targeting-men-couples-porn-and-the-male-perspective\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;We&#8217;re Still Targeting Men&#8221; &#8211; Couples Porn and The Male Perspective"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is a follow up post to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnaughty.com\/blog\/2013\/01\/16\/porns-new-market-is-women-says-cnbc-40-years-too-late\/\">Porn&#8217;s &#8220;new&#8221; market is women says CNBC, 40 years too late.<\/a> In which I got a bit snarky about the way the mainstream media presents the concept of &#8220;porn for women&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Slate now has a follow up article to CNBC&#8217;s piece called &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/blogs\/xx_factor\/2013\/01\/18\/jacky_st_james_on_porn_for_women_there_s_really_no_such_thing.html?utm_source=tw&amp;utm_medium=sm&amp;utm_campaign=button_chunky\">What Is Porn For Women?<\/a>&#8220;. It features an interview with New Sensations&#8217; writer, director and publicist Jacky St. James and she has a lot of worthwhile things to say. I found this quote to be revealing:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><\/strong>I don&#8217;t like when people say \u201cporn for women,\u201d because as a woman, that\u2019s not the kind of porn I watch. Our stuff is targeted toward couples who want to watch porn together, and women who might be a little intimidated or fearful of porn. <strong>When we say \u201cadult films for women,\u201d we\u2019re still targeting men <\/strong>[my emphasis].\u00a0 It\u2019s just that most men are not picking out couples\u2019 movies to masturbate to themselves\u2014they\u2019re finding them to watch with their wives.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The article is big on the idea that the phrase &#8220;porn for women&#8221; is flawed due to the idea of being all things to all people. Fair enough.<\/p>\n<p>But then we get Jacky revealing that New Sensations is not <em>really<\/em> catering to women at all. Rather, they&#8217;re following the tried-and-tested technique of selling &#8220;couples porn&#8221;. The mindset behind couples porn assumes that it&#8217;s still men making the decision about what to watch and that the female viewers are not really active participants or viewers; it&#8217;s for women who are new to porn, are turned off by the circus acts and are really only doing it to please their men. The couples porn video can&#8217;t have anything that might upset the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iObGIkqhJJw\">heterosexual house of cards<\/a> of the guy, like a solo male scene or two guys. But it can have two women, because that&#8217;s not gay or anything.<\/p>\n<p>In this scenario, women don&#8217;t actually watch porn by themselves and women still aren&#8217;t acknowledged as a legitimate porn audience in their own right. And it&#8217;s that aspect that&#8217;s always been a vital part of &#8220;porn for women&#8221; to me. It&#8217;s the simple acknowledgement that you are catering to a female audience &#8211; and giving their fantasies and perspective priority. Never mind plot or soft focus or romance&#8230; if you are doing women the honour of acknowledging their agency and their desires, that&#8217;s porn <em>for<\/em> women.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, the phrase is still very flawed and, as I&#8217;ve said before, we&#8217;ll probably stop using it one day. There are various issues with defining your porn according to audience which have been hashed over on this blog repeatedly. I guess I just need to repeat these things when the mainstream media start arguing over the term <em>once again<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I should add, I do think New Sensations are to be congratulated for at least trying to include the desires of women in their couples films. They at least went out and did some research into what their target audience might want. And I don&#8217;t think couples porn is inherently bad; there&#8217;s nothing wrong with making porn that couples would watch together. I think my main issue is that the male perspective still gets priority in these films, even when they&#8217;re ostensibly catering to women.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, one of the commenters on Slate said she wanted to see &#8220;Romantic, mostly light, deeply psychological BDSM. I have never seen a visual version of porn like this. It seems only to exist in literature.&#8221; In essence, where is the properly hot, thinking woman&#8217;s porn version of Fifty Shades?<\/p>\n<p>I would love to make this kind of porn film. There&#8217;s a couple of issues. Firstly, money: I don&#8217;t have it. Secondly, how to invoke the psychological aspects of BDSM within the confines of a low-budget porn film using performers who aren&#8217;t necessarily actors? Tricky. It can be hard to set up all the intricacies of plot and character required; easy to do in a book, much harder to depict on film, especially when you need to take up a lot of it with sex scenes.<\/p>\n<p>Still, maybe it&#8217;s time I sat down and wrote a script.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I think I know what kind of couples scene I want to film next for Bright Desire.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Slate now has a follow up article to CNBC&#8217;s piece called &#8220;What Is Porn For Women?&#8221;. It features an interview with New Sensations&#8217; writer, director and publicist Jacky St. James who says: &#8216;When we say adult films for women&#8217; we&#8217;re still targeting men&#8221;. <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/2013\/01\/19\/were-still-targeting-men-couples-porn-and-the-male-perspective\/\">Read More &#8230;<\/a><!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,15,16],"tags":[220,621,688],"class_list":["post-3445","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-porn","category-pornforwomen","category-porn-movies","tag-couples-porn","tag-porn-for-women","tag-romance"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3445","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3445"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3445\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3445"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3445"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/msnaughty.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3445"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}